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We really got our first traction in the clubs in Milwaukee. It had a good stage and it sounded good in there. It was crazy because it's all legal stuff with Atlantic and the masters. Peter Murphy Rockefeller Memorial Chapel. This band has no past. We needed a producer to reel us in. Clean living, perseverance and musical super glue.

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Another popular suburban club at the time was Night Gallery in Waukegan, where Cheap Trick shot promo videos for their debut record. It was a great opportunity to put this musical history together. Looking at their equipment, listening to their stage banter. It morphed into something more substantial. The sound that was coming out of Memphis, the Stax sound, was influencing all of the artists that influenced me—Bruce Springsteen, Journey, Rolling Stones, everybody. A friend on Facebook told us about Audio Fidelity and said they were a great company.

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Is there a song that never fails to evoke emotion when you hear it? We were just a rock band in the Chicago area from a little town trying to make a living. Do you see progress? He never took it off. Rick just took off like a shotgun with the songwriting after we got the band together.

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